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anyone have input on creating a practical steamed up shower glass effect? i'm shooting something next week and haven't turned up much online...
the actress will be seen in a shower, but she needs to be hazed over for nudity. and real steam would be impractical for the camera. she doesn't have to write on the fog or anything complicated, but the effect needs to be cleaned off completely afterwards so we can return the location 100% without buying new plate glass.
so far, all i've come up with is big sheets of diffusion...is there anything removable that could be sprayed on? i'm stumped.
the actress will be seen in a shower, but she needs to be hazed over for nudity. and real steam would be impractical for the camera. she doesn't have to write on the fog or anything complicated, but the effect needs to be cleaned off completely afterwards so we can return the location 100% without buying new plate glass.
so far, all i've come up with is big sheets of diffusion...is there anything removable that could be sprayed on? i'm stumped.
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Re: foggy window effect
Thu, July 23, 2009 - 3:12 PMIf you've ever sprayed something like Windex onto glass, you'll notice that it creates an instant "fog."
For quick and dirty, I'm guessing that Pam or any non-stick spray coating for cooking would work great, since it won't evaporate. Mist it on glass from a distance so it doesn't cake up and turn white.
I'll bet that by experimenting with a few different substances pumped out of a standard pump sprayer, you'd also find something else that didn't evaporate quickly -- maybe add some oil to the mix... -
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Re: foggy window effect
Thu, July 23, 2009 - 3:22 PMi have a mid-sized paint sprayer that's basically an airbrush on steroids...so it'll blow any reasonable concoction onto the glass, i'm thinking something as simple as cornstarch or flour and water, maybe.
and i thought about 'pam' as well. when you first spray it on, it is a little cloudy, which would be a good thing, but it quickly turns transparent - too transparent for this. they actually make "fog in a can" aerosol now, i have no idea what the evaporation rate or opacity would be on a surface...i think i'll have to hit the supply store for that tomorrow to test, and while i'm there i can pick some brains.
who's your favorite theatrical supplier in the area, allen? -
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Re: foggy window effect
Thu, July 23, 2009 - 3:45 PM"who's your favorite theatrical supplier in the area, allen?
Er...my job, where I borrow as much as I can get away with.
I'm not much of a craft-y kind of person, so I typically just hit local hardware stores or thrift shops, improvise with household supplies, let my props-person get it or make it, or I rent it from one of the many prop houses by the Cow Palace. I might build more if I had workspace at home, of which I have none.
Maybe I'll just hire you next time. -
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Re: foggy window effect
Thu, July 23, 2009 - 4:04 PMjust got off the phone with jcx expendables, they sell a dulling spray that they claim is water based and cleans off.
my crafty mother suggested hairspray, which i think is a safe bet. the cheap stuff is pretty cloudy, and i'm sure you could blow on some powder and layer it up pretty well...
i've got til monday to get them some test results, minus saturday when i have a lengthy lighting shift. ugh.
and yes, by all means you should hire me :D
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Re: foggy window effect
Fri, July 24, 2009 - 1:16 AMAt your basic home improvement or home variety store, they sell stick-on-peel-off window glaze. It's like a kind of vinyl.
I'd try that. -
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Re: foggy window effect
Fri, July 24, 2009 - 9:21 AMunfortunately, it's going to be a slightly wide shot, probably with a push in, and i'm worried about the seams from the vinyl showing. we did track down some big rolls of it online, but i don't know if we can get it in time...
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Re: foggy window effect
Fri, July 24, 2009 - 3:13 PMze problem is apparently solved, and neatly, at that...
purchased krylon dulling spray www.calumetphoto.com/item/BR1115/ which looks exactly like steam on glass, and fog in a can www.terralec.co.uk/fog_and_...39_p.html , both from JCX Expendables in SF www.jcxex.com/ , which is not only very well stocked (they even have washable crystal 'frost' in a can), but also the nicest people you'll ever meet.
both were well under $10 a can...
thanks for the input! -
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Re: foggy window effect
Fri, July 24, 2009 - 4:39 PMNice. Glad you found something that worked. But I still want to know if Pam works in a pinch! -
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Re: foggy window effect
Fri, July 24, 2009 - 5:23 PMi can tell you it works in other pinches....
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