http://budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#88bdabfa-c0cf-45de-8ec0-9fc0ad0db55d Free -- still the price of a new generation: http://budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#e9c350a2-954b-4b07-81f8-4fe0801808de Covers all three of your bases in spades. Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:28:08 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#88bdabfa-c0cf-45de-8ec0-9fc0ad0db55d Edward 2009-02-04T20:28:08Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#f2ddc68b-ac91-4674-9802-2b5b11fcd45a Go and BUY MAGIX Movie Edit Pro!! It'll cost $20 - $50 Dollars. Buy the newest version. I've used it for over 5 years, but it'll take about a year to gain a handle on the controls. I know Avid and Adobe and they pale in comparison. The sky is the limit with the software and you can find it online easy, too. The ONLY thing that you CAN'T do is reverse sound, but when is that ever necessary? Other than that, any other audio idea is obtainable, but I also recommend LOGIC for Audio, or look into the Audio Engineering Programs that MAGIX also produces, but they're VERY expensive. And by the way, Adobe can reverse audio. It's the only time that I use it. Comes with DvD Authoring Componets, too. I'm telling ya, amazing stuff. I upgrade every couple of years and am hardly disappointed. *(Montetre) Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:12:05 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#f2ddc68b-ac91-4674-9802-2b5b11fcd45a Montetre 2009-02-04T20:12:05Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#13da590a-505d-4dad-8561-f1ec96d3755a Okay, really that's true, I know. I should have just referred to the person posing the question. I have Avid Express Pro HD too, but I'm not gonna suggest that to anyone starting out. Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:03:47 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#13da590a-505d-4dad-8561-f1ec96d3755a wonder warrior 2009-02-03T14:03:47Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#08b25347-a200-4597-bde2-84d761331cb3 Likewise. Tue, 03 Feb 2009 06:24:16 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#08b25347-a200-4597-bde2-84d761331cb3 Edward 2009-02-03T06:24:16Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#9dee245b-952c-47bf-993a-6c7a1f153c74 It won't suit my damn needs, not by a long shot! If you want your work to look professional, or at least very good, then you gotta use the right tools. Vegas might be fine for YouTube, but not for features, or any project where you need to accomplish something technically complicated. Just sayin'... ^_^ Tue, 03 Feb 2009 06:15:08 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#9dee245b-952c-47bf-993a-6c7a1f153c74 Allen 2009-02-03T06:15:08Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#38978c39-a8b3-46b2-8c3c-b28fb720d718 The inexpensive version of Vegas will more than suit anyone's needs. Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:05:20 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#38978c39-a8b3-46b2-8c3c-b28fb720d718 wonder warrior 2009-02-03T01:05:20Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#d0971580-f4ab-4fdc-a320-6223d0f630a8 Thanks everyone! When you are speaking of Vegas, are you talking about the $50 version or the mecha version at $500 (pro) Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:51:29 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#d0971580-f4ab-4fdc-a320-6223d0f630a8 Malvado Supremo 2009-02-03T00:51:29Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#352bb4b4-c281-4d26-acc5-48f137672de2 I got Vegas Studio 9 (the cheap version, but the big pak with sound forge) and I'm really happy with it. Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:17:45 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#352bb4b4-c281-4d26-acc5-48f137672de2 brandon 2008-11-15T02:17:45Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#7eeab585-2598-431d-bbda-b90c7565fb62 My recommendation is Vegas as well. Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:50:38 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#7eeab585-2598-431d-bbda-b90c7565fb62 Danger Girl 2008-11-15T01:50:38Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#533d2999-60e0-44c7-8353-57290728e719 I use vegas with great results ..also theres a less expensive one i used called magix video deluxe..seemed to be great value..and easy to use.. Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:04:07 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#533d2999-60e0-44c7-8353-57290728e719 captain 2008-11-15T00:04:07Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#d35e5048-8b1a-4512-94a3-634a1c852851 yes, and that's true of all kinds of software products. But I've found 30 day trials for the most part don't help since one needs to be able to commit time to learning the program and with a full time day job and a couple of evening gigs every week and sometimes on the weekends, a 30 day trial more often than not means one or two sessions where mostly what I'm doing is learning. Windows Movie Maker is free so I could take the six months or so it took to find enough time overall to get to the point where I understand video editing enough to know I need a bit more power. So I really appreciate the input in places like this. I did do photoshop on a trail basis before I bought it, but only because I'd been working with a graphics editor for years and knew what kinds of things I expected it to be able to do for me. Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:46:29 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#d35e5048-8b1a-4512-94a3-634a1c852851 brandon 2008-07-26T06:46:29Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#eba0813b-581f-42c1-8983-d4ae5033600a vegas has everything you ever really need, i love it. Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:34:33 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#eba0813b-581f-42c1-8983-d4ae5033600a atom 2008-07-26T05:34:33Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#31052525-c04e-46b9-bcee-564794d2e882 Elements doesn't allow the multiple track capability of Sony Vegas. Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:07:34 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#31052525-c04e-46b9-bcee-564794d2e882 wonder warrior 2008-07-26T04:07:34Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#2d6ef5a4-327a-483b-a910-3da82fa8a8f6 brandon, you do realize, right, that you can download a fully-functional 30-day trial of Premiere (as well as practically any Adobe software)? Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:23:54 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#2d6ef5a4-327a-483b-a910-3da82fa8a8f6 Edward 2008-07-25T22:23:54Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#e97b489b-4d61-4942-a560-2e1dfbec8293 In my research last night I found quite a few good things said about Sony Vegas movie studio. If I understood what I was reading, I can have up to 4 video tracks as well as lots of audio tracks. Does Elements allow multiple video tracks? Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:25:09 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#e97b489b-4d61-4942-a560-2e1dfbec8293 brandon 2008-07-25T13:25:09Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#6ef317f0-61f7-4265-89b6-371a0be29741 Premiere Elements 4 is still the one then. In regards to titling, Windows Movie Maker is just easier, but Elements 4 has more options. As far as working for youtube,you can simply render a smaller file version of a full-size project. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:01:15 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#6ef317f0-61f7-4265-89b6-371a0be29741 wonder warrior 2008-07-25T00:01:15Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#8593e9f2-cfbd-4d95-8011-a17e82f1aee5 I'm considering going for Elements, but am disturbed when you say Movie Maker does better titles. That's one of the areas I was hoping to find a bit more flexibility with, like duration of fade and so forth. Do you know of anywhere that compares the editing features of the three you've mentioned? Everywhere I look, I keep finding junk about blu-ray and dvd and all I'm looking for is something that will work for youtube. But something with a bit more flexibility than movie maker. Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:22:39 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#8593e9f2-cfbd-4d95-8011-a17e82f1aee5 brandon 2008-07-24T23:22:39Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#da997d0e-f60d-4743-bb1c-a5e344074f6f Windows Movie Maker is surprisingly more than capable of doing decent work. In terms of buying software that is inexpensive- you've got a choice of Adobe Premiere Elements 4 or Sony Vegas Movie. Premiere Elements 4 is very easy and similar to Windows Movie Maker, but with some more features, yet I find Movie Maker better for titling. Now Vegas Movie really can give you pro results on a budget! Great video and audio features, but not so easy. Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:27:34 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#da997d0e-f60d-4743-bb1c-a5e344074f6f wonder warrior 2008-03-26T01:27:34Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#e9c350a2-954b-4b07-81f8-4fe0801808de Free is a good price. If you have a Mac, you probably have iMovie, which is perfectly fine to learn with. If you have a Windows box, you probably have Windows MovieMaker, which is also perfectly functional. If you have a Linux box, I've heard good things about Kino, but I don't know much about Linux apps. They can do about 90% of what you'll need to learn the basics. And they're all free Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:42:56 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#e9c350a2-954b-4b07-81f8-4fe0801808de Edward 2008-03-25T22:42:56Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#0c0d0389-6e6c-4877-874e-513d3176c32a Hello all, I have only recently reacquired a filming device, now I need a way to edit things I film. Software I hear is the way to go, given I have a digital camera, but the question is, what is a good thing for me to start out with, and what's affordable? Ideal progarm is: >Easy to learn >Affordable >Enough function to get by with. One of my interests is animation, so some capabilities with that would be good. Just looking to add a few tweaks then post it somewhere, really. Nothing extravagant to start. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:51:14 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/b1efe3b9-c6ce-46d5-a7e8-b2a3ea67644d#0c0d0389-6e6c-4877-874e-513d3176c32a Malvado Supremo 2008-03-25T21:51:14Z