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... Anyone have any thoughts on it? Would LA be a good place for that? I'm moving there soon and my primary interest is in writing/directing feature documentaries. I figure most people out there are trying to pitch narrative scripts, so I won't have much competition, but for the same reason, there might not be much of a system or market that supports it either.
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Re: Trying to pitch documentaries in Hollywood...
Mon, January 8, 2007 - 6:02 PMSounds to me like you know nothing about the market you're trying to crack -- a big mistake.
Docs have an entirely different production track than features. Firstly, are you talking about feature-length TV or feature-length theatrical? 'Cause the TV market is much larger.
Many docs are made specifically with public TV in mind, designed, for example, to be shown on PBS's "POV." Which means that they are an hour long (or recut to this length, and often have a longer cut for DVD release). These kinds of docs are also subsidized with grant money or other similar sources.
The few known doc-makers who aim for theatrical release like Michael Moore or Errol Morris might have other sources, but their funding models won't work for a beginner.
Doc TV, like that produced for the History Channel or Court TV, are always done by small production entities and made for relatively low cost and created very quickly. I doubt as an individual you'll have the resources to do that yourself. What I would suggest if going to LA, would be to try to get work on one of these shows being shot down there, particularly stuff that features recreations, like "America's Most Wanted," which I have heard is a great inroad for young directors in LA. This will get you started in the TV doc market, should you want that.
Beyond that, I'd say that the only way to pitch theatrical doc features is to have already made a successful one. This is a HARD market to get into -- in some ways harder than narratives, as there are fewer theatrical docs successfully sold. (A wonderful model for self-release and distribution is what the guys who made the 9/11 conspiracy film "Loose Change" did. Check their site at www.loosechange911.com )
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Re: Trying to pitch documentaries in Hollywood...
Wed, January 10, 2007 - 5:24 PMI am aiming for theatrical release work. Yeah you're right, so far the only official $ource I could find is the Sundance Documentary Fund and everything else is for TV projects that are usually an hour or less long. Michael Moore is certainly an inspiration, but even less-established directors have made it onto the big-screen. I guess what one of the things driving me is the amount of documentaries that are making it into theatres, and I wanna learn about the experience of those directors/producers, through their funding, production, festival touring, distribution, etc.
Thanx for the feedback. It's gonna be a challenge, no doubt, but I got some ideas that I'm gonna try out. -
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Re: Trying to pitch documentaries in Hollywood...
Wed, January 10, 2007 - 5:32 PMMaybe you can apprentice yourself to somebody who's already doing it.
You can often meet doc directors at film festivals, and at least pick their brains for ideas and tips. I met Penelope Spheeris at South by Southwest, and a bunch of other guys who made first-feature docs. (That's still my favorite festival, and everybody there is very approachable -- forget talking to famous people at places like Sundance.) -
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Re: Trying to pitch documentaries in Hollywood...
Thu, January 11, 2007 - 12:33 AMI found a few other doc funding sources for you in some old web bookmarks I had:
The Playboy Foundation
tinyurl.com/yxwmm7
Pacific Pioneer Fund (specifically for "emerging documentary filmmakers")
www.pacificpioneerfund.com/
-- though I can't believe that these guys still want samples submitted in VHS format!
Hope these help. -
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Re: Trying to pitch documentaries in Hollywood...
Thu, January 11, 2007 - 11:22 AMHence one of the reasons I want to keep my VCR and make sure it continues working. Word on the street is that they have been discontinued. You can't buy new ones anymore, I don't think. Thanx for the help!!!
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