http://budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#46634d9c-349b-484f-8924-a87b2ab8cf8d Yeah, I think we're going to be pretty tricky about it. We spent an evening talking about all sorts of gags to try. The real key, of course, is to get LOTS of footage, because what we're going to do is going to result in my nice skull replica being smashed. But this is what it has to be. 8/ That skull's been in a lot of productions, so it's probably a good note upon which to shuffle from this mortal coil. Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:41:10 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#46634d9c-349b-484f-8924-a87b2ab8cf8d Edward 2006-08-10T06:41:10Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#d80aa23b-dfc0-4eea-aac0-a2b179a441c2 Didn't read all the suggestions here - but you could do it the stage method considering how it would actually be very hard to compose a shot where you see the actor's face, the skull, AND the bite all in one. So you have them bite into any cheap fake skull on which the other side they are really biting into something attached to the skull which is editble and has the texture you want. they pull away and their mouth is filled with this - then cut to the prop broken skull revealing the innards and such... then they go in for another bite... or suck or whatever. Cutting is the best friend of fx. Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:31:07 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#d80aa23b-dfc0-4eea-aac0-a2b179a441c2 → Mark 2006-08-10T06:31:07Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#8b20cd43-b7b9-4aa9-8753-3e0a2b94252e BRAAIIIINNNSSS... Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:20:17 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#8b20cd43-b7b9-4aa9-8753-3e0a2b94252e Allen 2006-07-31T06:20:17Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#594661f3-56fc-4eb9-aea2-d5d4cfd0918c I'm meeting with the propmaster Monday about this. She's excited in general, and thinks she can get away with using our existing museum quality ceramic skull. She has some very gruesome ideas. Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:38:27 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#594661f3-56fc-4eb9-aea2-d5d4cfd0918c Edward 2006-07-31T02:38:27Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#0dd938e4-7e99-4e02-93af-69cca54a0bd7 Don't they have a 'Festival of the Dead' in Mexico, where they make and sell candy skulls by the truckload? Perhaps you need a 'life sized' human skull? I think that a lot of medical supply houses must have skull molds for making fake skulls. Try filling one of these with sugar water, then let it harden. I might still have a business card of a woman who will custom make anything out of chocolate. Sugar water is still your best bet though, since it won't melt. Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:22:54 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#0dd938e4-7e99-4e02-93af-69cca54a0bd7 James 2006-07-30T03:22:54Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#08d758fe-82e4-47b5-9864-8a22d37ab18b Marzapan and jelly? Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:40:29 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#08d758fe-82e4-47b5-9864-8a22d37ab18b Randy 2006-06-18T16:40:29Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#99e7e8d9-030f-4fcb-afc0-19c281051fe4 "Did I just earn my second movie credit from you?" Let's see if our propmaster uses it. 8) Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:28:19 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#99e7e8d9-030f-4fcb-afc0-19c281051fe4 Edward 2006-06-16T21:28:19Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#e4cd0e6e-054e-4b6a-aebd-b1f477bad8f2 Did I just earn my second movie credit from you? ;D Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:19:21 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#e4cd0e6e-054e-4b6a-aebd-b1f477bad8f2 Allen 2006-06-16T21:19:21Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#b34ac4a6-8634-4669-9c11-157d06adb391 Shitskies! You're right! I just plain didn't think to do it as two shots. (* HeadDesk *) Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:47:52 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#b34ac4a6-8634-4669-9c11-157d06adb391 Edward 2006-06-16T15:47:52Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#697abb40-9eaf-4040-9bfb-5e4530bdfabe Well, look, you really only need something that simulates the top of the skull. (I would be very loathe to mar my skull replica.) If you make a chocolate shell simply using a bowl as the mold, you could show a medium or wide shot of the guy about to crack the skull (using the entire replica skull), then cut to a close shot where you only see the top of the skull -- which would now be the chocolate model made from the bowl, which he could crack to his heart's delight, and juicy brain would be underneath. Yum! Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:21:12 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#697abb40-9eaf-4040-9bfb-5e4530bdfabe Allen 2006-06-16T06:21:12Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#3b8a05d4-bc1c-4bc1-a8c5-e98859ec7628 Yeah, I did. We tried that process a while ago. We only had one fella who had done any kind of molding before, and he's gone. Alas, all the molds busted before we could cast from them (might explain why he took off?). One thing I'm thinking about would be to score pieces out of the skull, just random shardlike triangles, and then layer some latex over the put-back-in-place pieces, so as to form a "hinge" of something that will look suspiciously like scalp flesh. A little bit of hair and some blood smeared and it might look good enough. He can reach his hand in, we can lay the hinged flaps against his wrist and then just as the camera comes to his hand, he can be pulling a fistful of brains out through the busted skull, chunks of it giving way to his mighty thews. With some nice crackly gooshy sound effects, this might realy revulse folks the way I want it to. Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:03:02 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#3b8a05d4-bc1c-4bc1-a8c5-e98859ec7628 Edward 2006-06-15T22:03:02Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#7724e160-0e98-4a24-ae03-9a1fdcbd81e2 Edward, since you already have a skull, have you considered making a mold from it with alginate or latex and casting your own chocolate skull? It's a non-destructive solution. Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:59:25 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#7724e160-0e98-4a24-ae03-9a1fdcbd81e2 Allen 2006-06-15T21:59:25Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#6681d3be-aa19-4e40-beb2-5c4e23c33545 "how much for one of those comp dvds?" PM me. Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:49:07 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#6681d3be-aa19-4e40-beb2-5c4e23c33545 Edward 2006-06-14T22:49:07Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#bdf4c3e8-da5f-4476-ac76-662b5d7cbaaa mold making is really time consuming... how much for one of those comp dvds? Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:13:45 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#bdf4c3e8-da5f-4476-ac76-662b5d7cbaaa atom 2006-06-14T22:13:45Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#eaebd179-1302-4265-8730-f1c4378b24db Yeah, I think that might be a good way to go... Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:41:13 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#eaebd179-1302-4265-8730-f1c4378b24db Edward 2006-06-14T21:41:13Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#0fe06144-5122-4f53-b915-bee3b370cd34 i don't know from digeridoos..but the crown part is always removeable, you'd be replacing the top 'half' of the skull... theoretically, you could cut off any section of the plastic and replace it with chocolate, depending on your sculptural skills... http://www.bcb.ltd.uk/old-images/w+skull.jpg Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:34:09 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#0fe06144-5122-4f53-b915-bee3b370cd34 atom 2006-06-14T21:34:09Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#b9f277e5-9839-48ab-8eec-654f1fc7ba18 "But the brain scene in the DVD extras..." We did just recently make a compilation DVD of the last seven movies we made for this workshop, including novelty introductions. Quite fun. The special features section was mostly bios and stuff about the conference, but I think on the next pass I shall do exactly that -- add the "alternate ending" to "Con of the Dead". Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:54:50 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#b9f277e5-9839-48ab-8eec-654f1fc7ba18 Edward 2006-06-14T20:54:50Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#e0f13dbc-1a1f-476b-b6bf-a6b84229b88d But the brain scene in the DVD extras... Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:49:28 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#e0f13dbc-1a1f-476b-b6bf-a6b84229b88d Allen 2006-06-14T20:49:28Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#c0880f89-ba11-4150-94b8-743ce0354444 Hm, a plastic skull with chocolate rim. Like the wax around a digeridoo? We just build up an inch or two? We used the brain-shaped Jell-O mold to make an "alternate ending" for our short "Con of the Dead" a few years ago. Never ended up in the final copy, though. Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:43:18 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#c0880f89-ba11-4150-94b8-743ce0354444 Edward 2006-06-14T20:43:18Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#186958bb-25ab-4589-9f10-610683439c47 I just love those brain-shaped jello molds. Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:33:43 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#186958bb-25ab-4589-9f10-610683439c47 Allen 2006-06-14T20:33:43Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#51483bad-c51d-40f2-87d1-a67b1f54f93d get a $15 plastic skull model, replace the top half (the round brainpan) with tinted white chocolate to match - you can 'mold' it in a salad bowl or something first, then bend it / smoosh it to fit by warming it carefully.....fill it with whatever- jello, pudding.... Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:51:57 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#51483bad-c51d-40f2-87d1-a67b1f54f93d atom 2006-06-14T16:51:57Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#eacca2d5-d449-465c-a377-1c5ec688704c The skullduggery ones aren't edible -- they're plaster. But they're supposedly museum-quality replicas, so I expect them to be a bit pricey. What i DON'T expect is for an edible chocolate skull to cost more than a museum class replica. This means that it would be CHEAPER for me to bust up my nice skull (heh) and simply replace it afterwards (to be fair, it's been a good skull and has been in several of my movies, so maybe a final sacrifice is appropriate). Maybe I should check the Halloween shop this Saturday and see what they have. Hell, if they have a mold that seems reasonable, we might be in business. Most skull-type molds are very cheesy-looking, though. Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:49:07 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#eacca2d5-d449-465c-a377-1c5ec688704c Edward 2006-06-14T15:49:07Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#57d4e53e-131c-4257-8e5a-10d2d01a939c Correct me if I'm wrong, Edward, but those don't look very edible....cool, but not tasty. Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:11:42 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#57d4e53e-131c-4257-8e5a-10d2d01a939c Allen 2006-06-14T08:11:42Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#99b78e0a-0802-48da-9338-df248fa9d472 I have a skullduggery skull and it looks really good -- but I'm loathe to bust it up. Here they are: http://skullduggery.com/skulls.htm#human%20skull This is cheaper than the same thing made out of chocolate! Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:26:59 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#99b78e0a-0802-48da-9338-df248fa9d472 Edward 2006-06-14T07:26:59Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#fde8e469-033f-4e28-be24-1773ec00e880 Skullicious. Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:31:00 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#fde8e469-033f-4e28-be24-1773ec00e880 Allen 2006-06-14T03:31:00Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#fbfd9443-197a-479c-ae3b-41bd7b88f977 yeah. Our actor doesn't have to eat the WHOLE skull, but has to look like he's eating SOME of it. Damn, the chocolate skulls are comparably priced to fine ceramic replicas from Skullduggery! Jeez... Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:47:24 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#fbfd9443-197a-479c-ae3b-41bd7b88f977 Edward 2006-06-13T23:47:24Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#31a044f7-2746-4df6-9a57-bab9a12212a8 ...awfully cool though... Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:40:19 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#31a044f7-2746-4df6-9a57-bab9a12212a8 Billy Shears 2006-06-13T23:40:19Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#94364a82-4982-49b5-8753-6200701e410f Not exactly budget, though. About $140 http://www.chocolateskulls.com/ Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:24:36 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#94364a82-4982-49b5-8753-6200701e410f Edward 2006-06-13T22:24:36Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#b1ec2e83-5358-4e24-bd40-1df1ad57b010 Oh damn: http://www.bewarethecheese.com/skulltastic/ Holy crap! Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:21:57 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#b1ec2e83-5358-4e24-bd40-1df1ad57b010 Edward 2006-06-13T22:21:57Z http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#df07ed92-9609-44fc-931a-207244c40def Any ideas on how to make a somewhat realistic looking skull that can be eaten onscreen? We're shooting MiniDV, so it doesn't have to stand up to the kind of scrutiny HD or real-life would require. We could make one out of, say, white chocolate, if we had a good mold. Or if someone could suggest how to make or acquire a good mold... Or a already existing chocolate skull...? Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:20:55 GMT http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#df07ed92-9609-44fc-931a-207244c40def Edward 2006-06-13T22:20:55Z