Tribe.net. Local Connections Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#46634d9c-349b-484f-8924-a87b2ab8cf8d 2006-08-10T06:41:10Z 2006-08-10T06:41:10Z

Yeah, I think we're going to be pretty tricky about it. We spent an evening talking about all sorts of gags to try. The real key, of course, is to get LOTS of footage, because what we're going to do is going to result in my nice skull replica being smashed. But this is what it has to be. 8/ That skull's been in a lot of productions, so it's probably a good note upon which to shuffle from this mortal coil.

Edward 2006-08-10T06:41:10Z → Mark http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#d80aa23b-dfc0-4eea-aac0-a2b179a441c2 2006-08-10T06:31:07Z 2006-08-10T06:31:07Z

Didn't read all the suggestions here - but you could do it the stage method considering how it would actually be very hard to compose a shot where you see the actor's face, the skull, AND the bite all in one. So you have them bite into any cheap fake skull on which the other side they are really biting into something attached to the skull which is editble and has the texture you want. they pull away and their mouth is filled with this - then cut to the prop broken skull revealing the innards and such... then they go in for another bite... or suck or whatever. Cutting is the best friend of fx.

→ Mark 2006-08-10T06:31:07Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#8b20cd43-b7b9-4aa9-8753-3e0a2b94252e 2006-07-31T06:20:17Z 2006-07-31T06:20:17Z

BRAAIIIINNNSSS...

Allen 2006-07-31T06:20:17Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#594661f3-56fc-4eb9-aea2-d5d4cfd0918c 2006-07-31T02:38:27Z 2006-07-31T02:38:27Z

I'm meeting with the propmaster Monday about this. She's excited in general, and thinks she can get away with using our existing museum quality ceramic skull. She has some very gruesome ideas.

Edward 2006-07-31T02:38:27Z James http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#0dd938e4-7e99-4e02-93af-69cca54a0bd7 2006-07-30T03:22:54Z 2006-07-30T03:22:54Z

Don't they have a 'Festival of the Dead' in Mexico, where they make and sell candy skulls by the truckload? Perhaps you need a 'life sized' human skull? I think that a lot of medical supply houses must have skull molds for making fake skulls. Try filling one of these with sugar water, then let it harden. I might still have a business card of a woman who will custom make anything out of chocolate. Sugar water is still your best bet though, since it won't melt.

James 2006-07-30T03:22:54Z Randy http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#08d758fe-82e4-47b5-9864-8a22d37ab18b 2006-06-18T16:40:29Z 2006-06-18T16:40:29Z

Marzapan and jelly?

Randy 2006-06-18T16:40:29Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#99e7e8d9-030f-4fcb-afc0-19c281051fe4 2006-06-16T21:28:19Z 2006-06-16T21:28:19Z

"Did I just earn my second movie credit from you?" Let's see if our propmaster uses it. 8)

Edward 2006-06-16T21:28:19Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#e4cd0e6e-054e-4b6a-aebd-b1f477bad8f2 2006-06-16T21:19:21Z 2006-06-16T21:19:21Z

Did I just earn my second movie credit from you? ;D

Allen 2006-06-16T21:19:21Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#b34ac4a6-8634-4669-9c11-157d06adb391 2006-06-16T15:47:52Z 2006-06-16T15:47:52Z

Shitskies! You're right! I just plain didn't think to do it as two shots. (* HeadDesk *)

Edward 2006-06-16T15:47:52Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#697abb40-9eaf-4040-9bfb-5e4530bdfabe 2006-06-16T06:21:12Z 2006-06-16T06:21:12Z

Well, look, you really only need something that simulates the top of the skull. (I would be very loathe to mar my skull replica.) If you make a chocolate shell simply using a bowl as the mold, you could show a medium or wide shot of the guy about to crack the skull (using the entire replica skull), then cut to a close shot where you only see the top of the skull -- which would now be the chocolate model made from the bowl, which he could crack to his heart's delight, and juicy brain would be underneath. Yum!

Allen 2006-06-16T06:21:12Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#3b8a05d4-bc1c-4bc1-a8c5-e98859ec7628 2006-06-15T22:06:11Z 2006-06-15T22:03:02Z

Yeah, I did. We tried that process a while ago. We only had one fella who had done any kind of molding before, and he's gone. Alas, all the molds busted before we could cast from them (might explain why he took off?). One thing I'm thinking about would be to score pieces out of the skull, just random shardlike triangles, and then layer some latex over the put-back-in-place pieces, so as to form a "hinge" of something that will look suspiciously like scalp flesh. A little bit of hair and some blood smeared and it might look good enough. He can reach his hand in, we can lay the hinged flaps against his wrist and then just as the camera comes to his hand, he can be pulling a fistful of brains out through the busted skull, chunks of it giving way to his mighty thews. With some nice crackly gooshy sound effects, this might realy revulse folks the way I want it to.

Edward 2006-06-15T22:03:02Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#7724e160-0e98-4a24-ae03-9a1fdcbd81e2 2006-06-15T21:59:25Z 2006-06-15T21:59:25Z

Edward, since you already have a skull, have you considered making a mold from it with alginate or latex and casting your own chocolate skull? It's a non-destructive solution.

Allen 2006-06-15T21:59:25Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#6681d3be-aa19-4e40-beb2-5c4e23c33545 2006-06-14T22:49:07Z 2006-06-14T22:49:07Z

"how much for one of those comp dvds?" PM me.

Edward 2006-06-14T22:49:07Z atom http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#bdf4c3e8-da5f-4476-ac76-662b5d7cbaaa 2006-06-14T22:13:45Z 2006-06-14T22:13:45Z

mold making is really time consuming... how much for one of those comp dvds?

atom 2006-06-14T22:13:45Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#eaebd179-1302-4265-8730-f1c4378b24db 2006-06-14T21:41:13Z 2006-06-14T21:41:13Z

Yeah, I think that might be a good way to go...

Edward 2006-06-14T21:41:13Z atom http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#0fe06144-5122-4f53-b915-bee3b370cd34 2006-06-14T21:34:09Z 2006-06-14T21:34:09Z

i don't know from digeridoos..but the crown part is always removeable, you'd be replacing the top 'half' of the skull... theoretically, you could cut off any section of the plastic and replace it with chocolate, depending on your sculptural skills... http://www.bcb.ltd.uk/old-images/w+skull.jpg

atom 2006-06-14T21:34:09Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#b9f277e5-9839-48ab-8eec-654f1fc7ba18 2006-06-14T20:54:50Z 2006-06-14T20:54:50Z

"But the brain scene in the DVD extras..." We did just recently make a compilation DVD of the last seven movies we made for this workshop, including novelty introductions. Quite fun. The special features section was mostly bios and stuff about the conference, but I think on the next pass I shall do exactly that -- add the "alternate ending" to "Con of the Dead".

Edward 2006-06-14T20:54:50Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#e0f13dbc-1a1f-476b-b6bf-a6b84229b88d 2006-06-14T20:49:28Z 2006-06-14T20:49:28Z

But the brain scene in the DVD extras...

Allen 2006-06-14T20:49:28Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#c0880f89-ba11-4150-94b8-743ce0354444 2006-06-14T20:43:18Z 2006-06-14T20:43:18Z

Hm, a plastic skull with chocolate rim. Like the wax around a digeridoo? We just build up an inch or two? We used the brain-shaped Jell-O mold to make an "alternate ending" for our short "Con of the Dead" a few years ago. Never ended up in the final copy, though.

Edward 2006-06-14T20:43:18Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#186958bb-25ab-4589-9f10-610683439c47 2006-06-14T20:33:43Z 2006-06-14T20:33:43Z

I just love those brain-shaped jello molds.

Allen 2006-06-14T20:33:43Z atom http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#51483bad-c51d-40f2-87d1-a67b1f54f93d 2006-06-14T16:51:57Z 2006-06-14T16:51:57Z

get a $15 plastic skull model, replace the top half (the round brainpan) with tinted white chocolate to match - you can 'mold' it in a salad bowl or something first, then bend it / smoosh it to fit by warming it carefully.....fill it with whatever- jello, pudding....

atom 2006-06-14T16:51:57Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#eacca2d5-d449-465c-a377-1c5ec688704c 2006-06-14T15:49:07Z 2006-06-14T15:49:07Z

The skullduggery ones aren't edible -- they're plaster. But they're supposedly museum-quality replicas, so I expect them to be a bit pricey. What i DON'T expect is for an edible chocolate skull to cost more than a museum class replica. This means that it would be CHEAPER for me to bust up my nice skull (heh) and simply replace it afterwards (to be fair, it's been a good skull and has been in several of my movies, so maybe a final sacrifice is appropriate). Maybe I should check the Halloween shop this Saturday and see what they have. Hell, if they have a mold that seems reasonable, we might be in business. Most skull-type molds are very cheesy-looking, though.

Edward 2006-06-14T15:49:07Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#57d4e53e-131c-4257-8e5a-10d2d01a939c 2006-06-14T08:11:42Z 2006-06-14T08:11:42Z

Correct me if I'm wrong, Edward, but those don't look very edible....cool, but not tasty.

Allen 2006-06-14T08:11:42Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#99b78e0a-0802-48da-9338-df248fa9d472 2006-06-14T07:26:59Z 2006-06-14T07:26:59Z

I have a skullduggery skull and it looks really good -- but I'm loathe to bust it up. Here they are: http://skullduggery.com/skulls.htm#human%20skull This is cheaper than the same thing made out of chocolate!

Edward 2006-06-14T07:26:59Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#fde8e469-033f-4e28-be24-1773ec00e880 2006-06-14T03:31:00Z 2006-06-14T03:31:00Z

Skullicious.

Allen 2006-06-14T03:31:00Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#fbfd9443-197a-479c-ae3b-41bd7b88f977 2006-06-13T23:47:24Z 2006-06-13T23:47:24Z

yeah. Our actor doesn't have to eat the WHOLE skull, but has to look like he's eating SOME of it. Damn, the chocolate skulls are comparably priced to fine ceramic replicas from Skullduggery! Jeez...

Edward 2006-06-13T23:47:24Z Billy Shears http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#31a044f7-2746-4df6-9a57-bab9a12212a8 2006-06-13T23:40:19Z 2006-06-13T23:40:19Z

...awfully cool though...

Billy Shears 2006-06-13T23:40:19Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#94364a82-4982-49b5-8753-6200701e410f 2006-06-13T22:24:36Z 2006-06-13T22:24:36Z

Not exactly budget, though. About $140 http://www.chocolateskulls.com/

Edward 2006-06-13T22:24:36Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#b1ec2e83-5358-4e24-bd40-1df1ad57b010 2006-06-13T22:21:57Z 2006-06-13T22:21:57Z

Oh damn: http://www.bewarethecheese.com/skulltastic/ Holy crap!

Edward 2006-06-13T22:21:57Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/58f60514-e99e-4b35-8835-30d13ababa9e#df07ed92-9609-44fc-931a-207244c40def 2006-06-13T22:20:55Z 2006-06-13T22:20:55Z

Any ideas on how to make a somewhat realistic looking skull that can be eaten onscreen? We're shooting MiniDV, so it doesn't have to stand up to the kind of scrutiny HD or real-life would require. We could make one out of, say, white chocolate, if we had a good mold. Or if someone could suggest how to make or acquire a good mold... Or a already existing chocolate skull...?

Edward 2006-06-13T22:20:55Z