Any ideas on how to make a somewhat realistic looking skull that can be eaten onscreen? We're shooting MiniDV, so it doesn't have to stand up to the kind of scrutiny HD or real-life would require.
We could make one out of, say, white chocolate, if we had a good mold.
Or if someone could suggest how to make or acquire a good mold...
Or a already existing chocolate skull...?
We could make one out of, say, white chocolate, if we had a good mold.
Or if someone could suggest how to make or acquire a good mold...
Or a already existing chocolate skull...?
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Tue, June 13, 2006 - 4:40 PM...awfully cool though... -
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Tue, June 13, 2006 - 4:47 PMyeah.
Our actor doesn't have to eat the WHOLE skull, but has to look like he's eating SOME of it.
Damn, the chocolate skulls are comparably priced to fine ceramic replicas from Skullduggery! Jeez... -
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 12:26 AMI have a skullduggery skull and it looks really good -- but I'm loathe to bust it up.
Here they are: skullduggery.com/skulls.ht...an%20skull
This is cheaper than the same thing made out of chocolate!
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 1:11 AMCorrect me if I'm wrong, Edward, but those don't look very edible....cool, but not tasty. -
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 8:49 AMThe skullduggery ones aren't edible -- they're plaster. But they're supposedly museum-quality replicas, so I expect them to be a bit pricey. What i DON'T expect is for an edible chocolate skull to cost more than a museum class replica. This means that it would be CHEAPER for me to bust up my nice skull (heh) and simply replace it afterwards (to be fair, it's been a good skull and has been in several of my movies, so maybe a final sacrifice is appropriate).
Maybe I should check the Halloween shop this Saturday and see what they have. Hell, if they have a mold that seems reasonable, we might be in business. Most skull-type molds are very cheesy-looking, though.
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 9:51 AMget a $15 plastic skull model, replace the top half (the round brainpan) with tinted white chocolate to match - you can 'mold' it in a salad bowl or something first, then bend it / smoosh it to fit by warming it carefully.....fill it with whatever- jello, pudding.... -
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 1:33 PMI just love those brain-shaped jello molds. -
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 1:43 PMHm, a plastic skull with chocolate rim. Like the wax around a digeridoo? We just build up an inch or two?
We used the brain-shaped Jell-O mold to make an "alternate ending" for our short "Con of the Dead" a few years ago. Never ended up in the final copy, though.
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 1:49 PMBut the brain scene in the DVD extras... -
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 1:54 PM"But the brain scene in the DVD extras..."
We did just recently make a compilation DVD of the last seven movies we made for this workshop, including novelty introductions. Quite fun. The special features section was mostly bios and stuff about the conference, but I think on the next pass I shall do exactly that -- add the "alternate ending" to "Con of the Dead".
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 2:34 PMi don't know from digeridoos..but the crown part is always removeable, you'd be replacing the top 'half' of the skull...
theoretically, you could cut off any section of the plastic and replace it with chocolate, depending on your sculptural skills...
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 2:41 PMYeah, I think that might be a good way to go... -
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 3:13 PMmold making is really time consuming...
how much for one of those comp dvds? -
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Wed, June 14, 2006 - 3:49 PM"how much for one of those comp dvds?"
PM me. -
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Thu, June 15, 2006 - 2:59 PMEdward, since you already have a skull, have you considered making a mold from it with alginate or latex and casting your own chocolate skull? It's a non-destructive solution. -
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Thu, June 15, 2006 - 3:03 PMYeah, I did. We tried that process a while ago. We only had one fella who had done any kind of molding before, and he's gone. Alas, all the molds busted before we could cast from them (might explain why he took off?).
One thing I'm thinking about would be to score pieces out of the skull, just random shardlike triangles, and then layer some latex over the put-back-in-place pieces, so as to form a "hinge" of something that will look suspiciously like scalp flesh. A little bit of hair and some blood smeared and it might look good enough. He can reach his hand in, we can lay the hinged flaps against his wrist and then just as the camera comes to his hand, he can be pulling a fistful of brains out through the busted skull, chunks of it giving way to his mighty thews.
With some nice crackly gooshy sound effects, this might realy revulse folks the way I want it to. -
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Thu, June 15, 2006 - 11:21 PMWell, look, you really only need something that simulates the top of the skull. (I would be very loathe to mar my skull replica.)
If you make a chocolate shell simply using a bowl as the mold, you could show a medium or wide shot of the guy about to crack the skull (using the entire replica skull), then cut to a close shot where you only see the top of the skull -- which would now be the chocolate model made from the bowl, which he could crack to his heart's delight, and juicy brain would be underneath. Yum! -
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Fri, June 16, 2006 - 8:47 AMShitskies!
You're right! I just plain didn't think to do it as two shots.
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Fri, June 16, 2006 - 2:19 PMDid I just earn my second movie credit from you? ;D -
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Fri, June 16, 2006 - 2:28 PM"Did I just earn my second movie credit from you?"
Let's see if our propmaster uses it. 8)
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Sat, July 29, 2006 - 8:22 PMDon't they have a 'Festival of the Dead' in Mexico, where they make and sell candy skulls by the truckload?
Perhaps you need a 'life sized' human skull? I think that a lot of medical supply houses must have skull molds for making fake skulls. Try filling one of these with sugar water, then let it harden.
I might still have a business card of a woman who will custom make anything out of chocolate. Sugar water is still your best bet though, since it won't melt.
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Sun, July 30, 2006 - 7:38 PMI'm meeting with the propmaster Monday about this. She's excited in general, and thinks she can get away with using our existing museum quality ceramic skull. She has some very gruesome ideas.
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Wed, August 9, 2006 - 11:31 PMDidn't read all the suggestions here - but you could do it the stage method considering how it would actually be very hard to compose a shot where you see the actor's face, the skull, AND the bite all in one.
So you have them bite into any cheap fake skull on which the other side they are really biting into something attached to the skull which is editble and has the texture you want. they pull away and their mouth is filled with this - then cut to the prop broken skull revealing the innards and such... then they go in for another bite... or suck or whatever.
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Wed, August 9, 2006 - 11:41 PMYeah, I think we're going to be pretty tricky about it. We spent an evening talking about all sorts of gags to try. The real key, of course, is to get LOTS of footage, because what we're going to do is going to result in my nice skull replica being smashed. But this is what it has to be. 8/
That skull's been in a lot of productions, so it's probably a good note upon which to shuffle from this mortal coil.
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