Any tips as far as lighting or sound that will save some schillings? Ive seen some pretty useful tricks, does anyone have anything for anything?
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Wed, November 29, 2006 - 10:58 PMFor true kung-fu authenticity, dub it in post.
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Thu, November 30, 2006 - 1:07 PM"For true kung-fu authenticity, dub it in post."
I'd go you one further -- make sure there is NO DIALOGUE.
This way, you can translate for foreign rights even cheaper!
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Thu, November 30, 2006 - 12:10 PMWe didn't have lights for a weekend when we were shooting but were able to light a room pretty well using those white Chinese type bulb lamps.
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Thu, November 30, 2006 - 1:06 PMMight I suggest storyboarding the living shit out of it. Shoot a couple of taks at least of each shot you want.
Shoot LOTS, including little bits and pieces.
Shoot reaction shots of any viewers. You never know when you'll need 'em.
Shoot unusual shots, such as foot-hits-wall, or head-turning-around. You never know when you might need 'em.
Don't worry about live sound at all.
Make a friend who has an up-and-coming rockish band and license one of their faster-paced songs and edit to that song's beat. -
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Thu, November 30, 2006 - 2:10 PM" Might I suggest storyboarding the living shit out of it."
Chant with me now:
B-ROLL! B-ROLL! B-ROLL! -
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Thu, November 30, 2006 - 10:19 PMyou guys rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Thu, November 30, 2006 - 10:36 PMYou know, I actually meant to cut and paste: "Shoot LOTS, including little bits and pieces."
I wasn't paying attention. And I don't even smoke pot anymore.
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Fri, December 1, 2006 - 1:28 AMThe hong kong guys I've been on the set with have an interesting methodology of coverage. I'm not saying this is the best way - it's what I've seen.
1. They shoot in order of the fight. Outside DP's hate this for obvious reasons.
2. They make sure every movie is covered in it's own take, but each shot includes the previous and post few EXCEPT for anything that involves heavy impact or reset.
3. They shoot this stuff incredibly fast.
4. And perhaps most important. Everything is based on rythm - like a drumb beat, you could literally score the fight with a drum notation - it's all about the steady beat and hitting the right accents.
As for lighting - look into kino flows.
Also - think about renting PRIMER and listening to the comentary as this guy has a lot of great low budget tips and is humble enough to say where he might have made a mistake.
Goodluck. -
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Fri, December 1, 2006 - 2:17 AM"They shoot this stuff incredibly fast."
I acted very briefly in a film made for mainland Chinese TV. And saying that they are "fast" is an understatement. They will shoot around the clock without stopping. The crew guys were very practical; they would set up the scene, props, furniture, lights, etc., then as soon as shooting began, they would immediately close their eyes and take cat naps right on the spot until they were needed for the next set-up.
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Fri, December 1, 2006 - 7:47 AM"They shoot in order of the fight. Outside DP's hate this for obvious reasons."
Actually, we shot our last fight scene this way. It was crazy like lightning and worked great! But we had a test shoot a week before with a few guys and a handicam.
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Fri, December 1, 2006 - 2:19 PMHere's a question: are you choreographing the scene yourself? If so, doulbe both combatants with yourself and then edit like hell. Do one actor against you, then the other. wearing their clothing obviously, and have the cameraman shoot tight.
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Sun, December 3, 2006 - 8:13 AMApproach some martial arts schools and see if they are interested in donating some performances. The more kung-fu coming out of the woods, the better. -
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Re: Im making a low budget martial arts film with a good camera
Tue, December 5, 2006 - 12:10 PMIm not really making a classical kung fu flick. I got some kick boxers, MMA guys and lei tai san shou fighters to take some hits. The project is called "Lopsided" quoted after an infamous gangster I know who said that "street altercations seem to be a bit lopsided". So in my project we are going to have realistic street altercations with medium contact hits. Its kinda be like a reality check.
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