Tribe.net. Local Connections Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#2be4fb18-8673-417e-983a-e7e4991e1bec 2007-10-23T17:51:33Z 2007-10-23T17:51:33Z

Yeah, I've seen a lot of this and maybe if I fiddle enough with what I can find, I'll be able to make do. The trouble is that everything I see on a low budget (which is us) that's simulated in a 3D environment LOOKS like a 3D environment. It just doesn't look real. We may go 3D, but that technology really isn't in our roster, whereas we have underwater gear and certified divers, and really good model-builders.

Edward 2007-10-23T17:51:33Z Randy http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#bd469574-67aa-461c-9716-4bc12c6f1525 2007-08-26T18:15:24Z 2007-08-26T18:15:24Z

I posted a picture in the album called "Dolphin Ruins" Created in Blender (free) using a free underwater scene.

Randy 2007-08-26T18:15:24Z Randy http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#8c1eff1c-0d37-4f8f-bf94-05b9a80148b8 2007-08-26T17:17:11Z 2007-08-26T17:17:11Z

Underwater is one of the things that is fairly easy to simulate using 3D applications. Volumetric lighting and bubble particle systems are fairly standard in most applications. I guess it depends on your shots and the need for specific buildings or architecture. Ruins are afordable and abundantly available. http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/search/searchsub/6a301ca9d3f411d31981a06bbcce3a7b/?sstring=ruins

Randy 2007-08-26T17:17:11Z Dan http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#af4b1b34-a7bf-4305-9c82-7ebdd7af27d6 2007-08-01T01:28:14Z 2007-08-01T01:28:14Z

Ah, well, fantastic work nonetheless! So many people only TALK about making movies and only a select FEW actually produce anything! Keep it up!

Dan 2007-08-01T01:28:14Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#338c230a-b0fa-41e5-84a6-dcc2052060d4 2007-07-31T19:27:44Z 2007-07-31T19:27:44Z

Ah, I made a goofy version of The Call of Cthulhu, but it's not the one you're talking about. Those guys kicked ass.

Edward 2007-07-31T19:27:44Z Dan http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#0e571da2-185c-4fb2-8215-af5de1f48659 2007-07-31T16:51:36Z 2007-07-31T16:51:36Z

Right? I think they're great. He's got tons of 'em, available here: http://www.kipkay.com And after checking out the link you posted, did you make Call of Cthulu? I've seen that one! Pretty well done! I like the lighting effects and the energy that went into making it look like an old-time movie -- REALLY well done! Good work.

Dan 2007-07-31T16:51:36Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#c743ccd1-fbc5-4641-86be-012d9f191ac0 2007-07-31T08:46:53Z 2007-07-31T08:46:53Z

Okay, I already have an underwater container for my camcorder, but... but... this is freakin' great! 8) And well edited, too. This guys knows how to make a frickin' how-to video!

Edward 2007-07-31T08:46:53Z Dan http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#b65cb686-13b1-4dd5-a2af-9741e58c6da3 2007-07-31T08:04:32Z 2007-07-31T08:04:32Z

Check this out: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/648138/underwater_camcorder_mod_10/ Good luck

Dan 2007-07-31T08:04:32Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#5879fff0-3bec-4a9c-be65-fd1d61a4febd 2007-07-31T06:42:34Z 2007-07-31T06:42:34Z

These are ancient buildings, sunken beneath the sea for thousands of years. It'll be interesting. I have two DVDs commercially available already... ;) http://www.guerrilla-productions.org/ But the new ones that we've done since the Cosmic Horror Fun-Pak and the new ones planned (such as this underwater one) are really, really neat!

Edward 2007-07-31T06:42:34Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#05e9cb7c-648f-42ca-80d2-1cbe928602a1 2007-07-31T04:34:58Z 2007-07-31T04:34:29Z

I'd use plastic. Maybe recycle various model kits, which is a time-honored tradition for making sci-fi models. You might look at model train kits for pre-made building shapes. To light the buildings, you can hot glue LEDs into them (LED are waterproof and don't heat up), then make sure that the wiring is all sealed against electricity leaks (again, more hot glue everywhere). Plastic bottles could also make good building shapes, and the cut-off bottoms would look very sci-fi -- assuming that's what you're going for. Random plastic objects in general (thrift shopping would be good), like old toys, appliances, food containers, and knick-knacks can be repurposed for architecture. When do I get to see some of your movies?

Allen 2007-07-31T04:34:29Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#aa654e55-f2ef-4728-aab2-8441a9acfb23 2007-07-30T04:36:45Z 2007-07-30T04:36:45Z

Yes, probably very crazy. I've done a little underwater shooting for another short and I have an underwater bag for my MiniDV camera (an older camera). The fella putting together the model is actually pretty excited about putting together the miniatures and making them not-waterproof, but irrelevant-to-flooding. Looks like we'll have working electronics in the submarine, too. Trying to figure out some options for making underwater miniature buildings. They may be underwater for hours and hours, so they will flood, and obviously, water soluble is a bad idea. 8) Any ideas?

Edward 2007-07-30T04:36:45Z Allen http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#880beeca-04b2-41f6-99a5-34bdde91de7a 2007-07-30T03:45:34Z 2007-07-30T03:45:34Z

You so crazy! I was just watching some "Ultraman" eps recently, and all "underwater" sequences were done on dry sets, with subs hanging from wires, and a shimmering blue light wash. But have fun with that. I hope you get good results.

Allen 2007-07-30T03:45:34Z Edward http://Budgetfilming.tribe.net/thread/1bdb5724-483f-448e-a46a-902d12c3495d#6b6a38c1-180a-4a89-bc9f-c2c6747eda67 2007-07-29T20:26:18Z 2007-07-29T20:26:18Z

Any tips and tricks on underwater shooting? We plan to build models, probably out of cement or some other waterproof substance, and sink them to the bottom of a pool the floor of which has been silted and sanded. Electronic lighting effects will probably be DC battery packs, waterproofed and sealed. Anything I ought to be watching out for?

Edward 2007-07-29T20:26:18Z